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they don't need to be nra members to have that feeling. the nra is powerful. these outside groups get more credit than they deserve. there's a bunch of people that own guns they don't need an nra sticker to feel passionate about that issue. >> we'll see you later on "morning joe." now to a developing overseas where american citizens are among dozens of people being held in a hostage standoff. this is unfolding now in the is a had-- sahara desert. dozens of hostages who work at the plant including americans. officials say at least two people were killed during the raid. the militants claim the take is revenge for france's military operation against rebels in neighboring mali. the u.s. providing assistance to that effort. take a listen to leon panetta talking about this standoff. >> by all indications this is a terrorist act and the united states strongly condemns these kinds of terrorist acts. it's a very serious matter when americans are taken hostage along with others. >> the algierian military says it has the oil compound is your rounded adding it will not n
they don't need to be nra members to have that feeling. the nra is powerful. these outside groups get more credit than they deserve. there's a bunch of people that own guns they don't need an nra sticker to feel passionate about that issue. >> we'll see you later on "morning joe." now to a developing overseas where american citizens are among dozens of people being held in a hostage standoff. this is unfolding now in the is a had-- sahara desert. dozens of hostages who work at...
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it was not the nra is so powerful. he paid tribute to the power of the american people to influence congress to say yes to some things that even congress is not inclined to say yes to. the only way we can change is if the american people demand it. and that doesn't mean from just certain parts of the country. we're going to need voices in those areas and those congressional districts where the tradition of gun ownership is strong to speak up. this will not happen unless the american people demand it. if parents and teachers, police officers and pastors, if hunters and sportsman if every american stands up and says enough, we suffered too much pain and care too much about our children to allow this to continue, then change will come. you know, in the letter that julia wrote me, she said i know that laws have to be passed by congress. but i beg you to try very hardly. julie, i will try very hard. but she's right. the most important changes we can make depend on congressional action. they need to bring these proposals up
it was not the nra is so powerful. he paid tribute to the power of the american people to influence congress to say yes to some things that even congress is not inclined to say yes to. the only way we can change is if the american people demand it. and that doesn't mean from just certain parts of the country. we're going to need voices in those areas and those congressional districts where the tradition of gun ownership is strong to speak up. this will not happen unless the american people...
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. >> adding bilt to the read beat rhetoric from the right t national rifle association, the nra ramping up its fight and defending its new ad featuring the president's daughters. >> it wasn't about the president's daughters, what it is about is the fact that this whole debate is how to keep children safe. we believe that every parent ought to be able to be comfortable knowing that their children are safe and if that requires armed security, it's as good for the working man as it is for the president. >> joining me from washington is nbc news capital hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. linds yay graham, his i'm confident that there will be bipartisan opposition and then roy blunt says that this is the president trying to curbs the rights of middle class americans. >> reporter: certainly we don't expect anything coming from the republican-led house so the pressure really falls on the senate democrats. and what we expect is that when they come back next week, of course we have got the inauguration and then senior aides tell us they plan to meet with the democrats within the senate to talk
. >> adding bilt to the read beat rhetoric from the right t national rifle association, the nra ramping up its fight and defending its new ad featuring the president's daughters. >> it wasn't about the president's daughters, what it is about is the fact that this whole debate is how to keep children safe. we believe that every parent ought to be able to be comfortable knowing that their children are safe and if that requires armed security, it's as good for the working man as it is...
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here's the point on the nra ad. many republicans have taken money and not one of them have come out and said that ad is over the top. do you think they should? >> oh, yeah, i think they should. i agree with andrea mitchell's question. why are we invoking the president's children here? why are we making a false equivalency for the president and his family and this issue? this is confusing. >> i'm waiting for speaker boehner to come out and say all of this talk about impeachment, civil war, this is not the republican party that i want to lead. don't make common cause as mitt romney did during the campaign. let's not get involved here with this sort of tactic. >> i don't think they're going to be doing it any time soon. they're taking their lead from the nra. and the nra came out and said it's prepared to do the battle of the century. barack obama, joe biden and their gun allies only want to blame you, vilify you and strip you of your second amendment freedoms. these lines are pretty clear here. is this where the repub
here's the point on the nra ad. many republicans have taken money and not one of them have come out and said that ad is over the top. do you think they should? >> oh, yeah, i think they should. i agree with andrea mitchell's question. why are we invoking the president's children here? why are we making a false equivalency for the president and his family and this issue? this is confusing. >> i'm waiting for speaker boehner to come out and say all of this talk about impeachment,...
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the nra has many members, i have no argument with them. i have a challenge with the leadership who sometimes think they can go run around in the halls of washington. they don't realize we have got more lobbyists out there and the sad fact of the matter is that we have all seen the blood, we have seen the shooting, we have seen the loss and if they want to have a fight, let's have a fight. the gun manufacturers want to take on the mayors of america? okay, guess who buys a whole lot of guns, police forces, so if you want to have that kind of a battle, let's have it. >> you made a good point at the beginning, this isn't just about gun control, you're talking about stopping gun violence. but part of the nra's message that's been so successful is that the kinds of things the president is talking about and that you and the other mayors are talking about is part of a slippery slope that you want to take away their guns. how do you convince them that what you're saying that you support the second amendment as opposed to what they're saying at the
the nra has many members, i have no argument with them. i have a challenge with the leadership who sometimes think they can go run around in the halls of washington. they don't realize we have got more lobbyists out there and the sad fact of the matter is that we have all seen the blood, we have seen the shooting, we have seen the loss and if they want to have a fight, let's have a fight. the gun manufacturers want to take on the mayors of america? okay, guess who buys a whole lot of guns,...
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now, neither one of those guys have resigned from the board of the nra over the nra's sleazy use of the president's children and their use of the propaganda. we'll expose more members of the board of the nra coming up. and next, howard dean will join me with his reaction to the nra's tactics. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup in their arteries. so it's even more important to lower their cholesterol, and that's why, when diet and exercise alone aren't enough, i prescribe crestor. in a clinical trial v
now, neither one of those guys have resigned from the board of the nra over the nra's sleazy use of the president's children and their use of the propaganda. we'll expose more members of the board of the nra coming up. and next, howard dean will join me with his reaction to the nra's tactics. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our...
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reporter: ((do you thiik nra made a mistake there?")"it's just a disgrace."other hhuse -3 democrats said the ad amounteed to intimidation."we'rr dealing -& with people who aren't terribly stable so that kind of ad i think is dangerous."",3& "it was irresponsible and...you know, this is not yourrgrandfathers nra."there was aaso outrage over at thee wwite house. "most americans agree that a presideet's pawns in a political fight," said press secrrtary jjy caaney, "but to go so far as 3 pressdeet's children the & subject of an attack ad is repugnanttand cowardly."n-r-a -3leaders are alss ratcheting up the rhetoric in an email to tthir members... saying "i warned you ttii ay was coming and now itts herre this is the 3 need you on board witt theenrr now more than ever."at his news conference, president obama innicated he new this was ccming.""hhs will be diffiiult. there will be speccal interesttlobbyists -3 publlcly warnnng of a tyrannical all out assaultton llberty."back at the capitol..janet robinnon.. the suueeintendent of the newtown school system saii she's
reporter: ((do you thiik nra made a mistake there?")"it's just a disgrace."other hhuse -3 democrats said the ad amounteed to intimidation."we'rr dealing -& with people who aren't terribly stable so that kind of ad i think is dangerous."",3& "it was irresponsible and...you know, this is not yourrgrandfathers nra."there was aaso outrage over at thee wwite house. "most americans agree that a presideet's pawns in a political fight," said...
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> deet spite a lot of the nra -- the nra has a 41% favorability rating. you are right that it's a lot more favorable than some people might anticipate, and it's also been very stable. these numbers are almost identical to what we saw in 2011. of course, that was two years before the newtown shootings. the nra's negative numbers. the nra is in a better position heading into this fight than it was ten years ago. >> we talk about brands, chris alissa, the nra brand has been fairly toxic in many of the debates, the gun debates especially since newtown, but their membership base is broad and deep. is that where you read from this? >> i would say two things to take from it. one, andrea, and mark makes this point. one is that, look, the nra i think inside the beltway and in big cities in this country is akin to a curse word. it is not in the vast majority of the country. there is a disconnect that exists here about the nra. the second thing, and you hit on it, which is right, this is a membership organization four million strong. they continue to add members in
> deet spite a lot of the nra -- the nra has a 41% favorability rating. you are right that it's a lot more favorable than some people might anticipate, and it's also been very stable. these numbers are almost identical to what we saw in 2011. of course, that was two years before the newtown shootings. the nra's negative numbers. the nra is in a better position heading into this fight than it was ten years ago. >> we talk about brands, chris alissa, the nra brand has been fairly toxic...
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the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth but propaganda. it is about ginny up support of gun lobby, for buying guns. it's about ginnying up a membership and donors to that organization. and they do that very well. i mean, i think historically, when's happened to the nra is the court controversy and in that way they become more powerful because they're able to swell their membership. >> so in fairness, chris, i won't ask you relating to republicans but to some democrats, joe manchin's comments regarding the president said i'm disappointed the president did not recommend the creation of a national commission on mass violence as i proposed. max bacchus said we need a law in montana instead of one size fits all directive of washington. not the fringe republicans, not behind the nra ad, but still, similar talking points from them that would fall with some of the things we have heard out of the nra, chris. does your party or some within your party need -- since rick perry said it's about prayer, do they need a come to jesus moment, as well? >> he
the nra in this ad, it isn't about truth but propaganda. it is about ginny up support of gun lobby, for buying guns. it's about ginnying up a membership and donors to that organization. and they do that very well. i mean, i think historically, when's happened to the nra is the court controversy and in that way they become more powerful because they're able to swell their membership. >> so in fairness, chris, i won't ask you relating to republicans but to some democrats, joe manchin's...
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endorsements, the nra's pac contributions and the nra's independent expenditures and found in fact you're pretty hard-pressed to find more than a handful of races where the nra's involvement made a difference. and they had a really bad year in november. they endorsed only seven senate candidates where they spent more than $100,000 in those races. six of those candidates lost. they spent more money i think on defeating barack obama because he was going to erase the second amendment from the constitution than they've ever spent to defeat anybody before, yet there he was today at the white house behind the podium talking about reasonable common sense gun laws. >> i thought the nra's advertisement lambasting the president for the security around his children was particularly offensive and a new low even by the leadership of that organization standards today. >> you know, we talked to nra members and we talked to gun dealers and we poll them. the truth is the average nra member has not been very happy with the performance that they've been seeing out of the nra's washington lobbyists lately. n
endorsements, the nra's pac contributions and the nra's independent expenditures and found in fact you're pretty hard-pressed to find more than a handful of races where the nra's involvement made a difference. and they had a really bad year in november. they endorsed only seven senate candidates where they spent more than $100,000 in those races. six of those candidates lost. they spent more money i think on defeating barack obama because he was going to erase the second amendment from the...
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sort of the nra checklist and the second amendment versus this drawing by this kid. that's a powerful image for these people. >> you have to remember the second amendment is still there, and the supreme court cases on it are still there, and he doesn't have any power to change that. >> nor is he trying to change it. >> no, but that really limits the scope of what he can do. >> i don't think the president has ever said we're going to do these things and never going to have another newtown. i think constantly he has said shouldn't we be doing the best that we can be doing? shouldn't we try to have more effective gun safety laws? shouldn't we try to understand an interlinkage between violence in the media and violence in our cities and schools? >> i'm not faulting the president on either his messaging or his intent, but i think that sort of realistically when you look at things like the assault weapons ban, there's no evidence that the one that we had any impact. maybe it will do something different with it next time, but, many of the, the stuff that's within the kind o
sort of the nra checklist and the second amendment versus this drawing by this kid. that's a powerful image for these people. >> you have to remember the second amendment is still there, and the supreme court cases on it are still there, and he doesn't have any power to change that. >> nor is he trying to change it. >> no, but that really limits the scope of what he can do. >> i don't think the president has ever said we're going to do these things and never going to...
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house and the nra. here to talk about it cnn contributor and consultant margaret hoover, charles blowe and david gergen. david, when you look at these proposals, are some of them non-starters? >> i think first of all, we have to say, anderson, many times in the past we have complained about a lack of leadership by president obama. this time he has stepped up. he is taking the lead. this is what a president who is really is committed does. >> he went big. >> he went big. you have to give him credit for that. his problem is that he is handicapped. he doesn't have enough power through the executive office to do this alone. most of these are small bore initiatives that he is going to do on his own. he needs the congress to get this done. and so far we have to bring politics into this, because this is a political matter in this tragedy. and so far he just does not have the public support. he can get the background checks done. i think that is very doable this year. but anderson, he doesn't have the support i
house and the nra. here to talk about it cnn contributor and consultant margaret hoover, charles blowe and david gergen. david, when you look at these proposals, are some of them non-starters? >> i think first of all, we have to say, anderson, many times in the past we have complained about a lack of leadership by president obama. this time he has stepped up. he is taking the lead. this is what a president who is really is committed does. >> he went big. >> he went big. you...
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need to stand up for nra. the nra just played played specifically into that strategy. >> i think we all agree on that. >> and they're wrong on the facts. the president basically said not that he is opposed to having more armed guards in schools, he is just saying he is skeptical that solves the problem in schools. and in fact the white house kept proposing more money for the safe schools program. and it was congress in 2012 that killed that money in congress. and if you look at the proposal they put forth today, they basically say, they explicitly say that if some schools want to have more armed guards, that's up to them. but we want to leave to it the local districts to decide on their own. >> which interesting, because you now have the nra arguing -- >> for larger government. >> for larger federal government, putting armed people like government troops into schools. as opposed to leaving them -- >> the nra came out with a proposal to put guards in schools, everybody from the president's party dumped on them.
need to stand up for nra. the nra just played played specifically into that strategy. >> i think we all agree on that. >> and they're wrong on the facts. the president basically said not that he is opposed to having more armed guards in schools, he is just saying he is skeptical that solves the problem in schools. and in fact the white house kept proposing more money for the safe schools program. and it was congress in 2012 that killed that money in congress. and if you look at the...
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highlighting nra intransigence is part of the strategy. momentum for change may be starting to fade. 56% now favor an assault weapons ban compared to 62% immediately after newtown. 58% support a ban on extended magazines. last month, that was 62%. however, expanded background checks remains popular with 87% supporting checks on gun show purchases. we'll have more on the politics shortly. first, the personal two takes on what happened at the white house today. lexi holler, the uncle of noah posner joins us along with colin goddard, slot four times at virginia tech. >>> i was wondering what your reaction was to what you heard? >> well, based on what we heard before, the announcement when the families met with the president and the vice president and during the announcement itself, i was satisfied and pleased to see that the administration is treating this so seriously. i think the strong sense i got was that they were determined to make a major change here and to inact significant reforms that would put a stop to this kind of violence. >> ar
highlighting nra intransigence is part of the strategy. momentum for change may be starting to fade. 56% now favor an assault weapons ban compared to 62% immediately after newtown. 58% support a ban on extended magazines. last month, that was 62%. however, expanded background checks remains popular with 87% supporting checks on gun show purchases. we'll have more on the politics shortly. first, the personal two takes on what happened at the white house today. lexi holler, the uncle of noah...
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now, the nra talks about gun rights, but what about the rights of those people, sir? >> well, i think that we're at a unique moment in time. and, martin, we all know that we're now at the hard part. we know that we're at a moment where if we're ever going to get reasonable gun control measures, many of which were supported by president ronald reagan when he worked to pass the assault weapons ban in 1994 when the ban only passed by two votes, that we're going to have to act right now. i think programs like yours are essential to explain how hard this fight is going to be and how motivated every single person that has ever wanted to do anything about this issue needs to do it right now. the president has put his personal prestige behind trying to get this gun. the vice president has worked on common sense reforms, but everybody who is through anything like what you just n d named in cities and communities across the united states of america need to understand that this is going to be hard, tough, long and la boroborious, but it going to be worth it. >> congressman moran
now, the nra talks about gun rights, but what about the rights of those people, sir? >> well, i think that we're at a unique moment in time. and, martin, we all know that we're now at the hard part. we know that we're at a moment where if we're ever going to get reasonable gun control measures, many of which were supported by president ronald reagan when he worked to pass the assault weapons ban in 1994 when the ban only passed by two votes, that we're going to have to act right now. i...
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just how out of touch is the nra? the gun rights group has given no ground since the newtown school shooting and is now running a new ad that goes after the president's daughters. has the group finally given up the veneer of having from both parties? americans are generally turning on them and many of their policies are deeply unpopular. i'm talking about the nra. and they're facing right now, we'll see. will the republican party go along the same road the nra is taking? joining me now is my friend and colleague joe scarborough who often speaks common sense from the center right. is it fair to say you're in the center right politically? where would you like to have a third party describe you? i think you are center right. i'm somewhere over to the left, but i think you're somewhere on the other side of the middle point. where are you? >> you know, for the most part i'm where i was when i was in congress. 95% conservative rating. and we could start a debate right now over debt. let me just -- because this is an importa
just how out of touch is the nra? the gun rights group has given no ground since the newtown school shooting and is now running a new ad that goes after the president's daughters. has the group finally given up the veneer of having from both parties? americans are generally turning on them and many of their policies are deeply unpopular. i'm talking about the nra. and they're facing right now, we'll see. will the republican party go along the same road the nra is taking? joining me now is my...
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we have talked a lot about the nra and how the nra has 4 million members. something like 47% of u.s. house holds report that they own a gun. that is a lot more than 4 million. the nra is concerned about rival gun rights organizations. the gun owners of america is an organization that claims to be more hard core and more solutist and it has 300,000 members. the nra represents a minority of gun owners in the united states and they are concerned about being outflanked in terms of the strength with which they defend gun rights. the truth is there are a ton of gun owners. when the nra goes off and has an ad of that nature they are not necessarily representing real gun owners. they are representing a much smaller group and they are concerned about it being seen as too moderate. >> the president of the nra defended the ad. i want to play his defense before you jump in here. >> the fact of the matter is that the schools in washington that are attended by the elites, not just the president's daughters but the sons and daughters of others are protected by armed secur
we have talked a lot about the nra and how the nra has 4 million members. something like 47% of u.s. house holds report that they own a gun. that is a lot more than 4 million. the nra is concerned about rival gun rights organizations. the gun owners of america is an organization that claims to be more hard core and more solutist and it has 300,000 members. the nra represents a minority of gun owners in the united states and they are concerned about being outflanked in terms of the strength with...
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now, neither one of those guys have resigned from the board of the nra over the nra's sleazy use of the president's children and their use of the propaganda. we'll expose more members of the board of the nra coming up. and next, howard dean will join me with his reaction to the nra's tactics. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... then he gave me some blood tests. showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number -- not just me. [ male announcer ] today, men with low t have androgel 1.62% (testosterone gel). the #1 prescribed topical testosterone replacement therapy, increases testosterone when used daily. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a child, or signs in a woman, which may include changes in body hair or a large increase
now, neither one of those guys have resigned from the board of the nra over the nra's sleazy use of the president's children and their use of the propaganda. we'll expose more members of the board of the nra coming up. and next, howard dean will join me with his reaction to the nra's tactics. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's...
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the president will be going up against the nra. you need to see where the president goes, how often he goes. and exactly what he's going to be saying out on the stump. if he does his, this campaign for gun control like he did his re-election campaign then i don't put it past the president to get something through congress. i don't know what it will be. i want will be hard to get anything through a republican congress. he can do that, yes. >> thanks so much for your perspective. >> thanks. >> turning now to sports. the nba, heat vz the wizards, 28-year-old lebron james is now the youngest player to reach the 20,000 point mark in his career. only 38 other players have reached that point. heat cruised to an easy win over golden state 92-75. >>> overtime thriller as chicago's dang hit a jump shot with three second left on the clock. >>> and a dramatic upset in college basketball as maryland was trailing with five seconds left in the game. one shot missed but alex grabbed it and scored to knock off number 14 north carolina state, 51-50.
the president will be going up against the nra. you need to see where the president goes, how often he goes. and exactly what he's going to be saying out on the stump. if he does his, this campaign for gun control like he did his re-election campaign then i don't put it past the president to get something through congress. i don't know what it will be. i want will be hard to get anything through a republican congress. he can do that, yes. >> thanks so much for your perspective. >>...
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ten others received "a" by the nra. kimberly, if the people are getting "as" and "b"s by the nra do you think they will vote to change the constitution in the way president obama wants them to? >> kimberly: absolutely not. the nra poke the cage and super mad. this is all out war. they are not taking it sitting down. tremendous support. record number of people joining, giving money. look at the number of gun sales, ammunition sales. everything that is going on. thaw have this in their respect. if they want to hold on to the position, they have to tread carefully. >> bob: the same nra that used obama's children disgustingly. max baucus, i did his first campaign for the united states senate. he is from montana. i understand -- >> kimberly: did he win? >> bob: obviously, he wouldn't be up there. >> kimberly: you brought him in? >> bob: i did. that is not the point. baucus will vote against more than ten bullets in the clip. >> dana: they will never have a chance to vote on it. >> eric: i 100%, 1,000% agree. i don't think re
ten others received "a" by the nra. kimberly, if the people are getting "as" and "b"s by the nra do you think they will vote to change the constitution in the way president obama wants them to? >> kimberly: absolutely not. the nra poke the cage and super mad. this is all out war. they are not taking it sitting down. tremendous support. record number of people joining, giving money. look at the number of gun sales, ammunition sales. everything that is going...
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the nra are a bunch of punks for running the ad. if they stand behind it, why are they removing it from their website. they are getting what they wanted. they put a youtube add up. we're talking about it. it gets out there. it shows you how weak and cowardly they are when they chose to run away from it. there is no need to invoke the president's daughters in this conversation. i can guarantee you that had anybody invoked the daughters of president george w. bush in a similar ad, folks on the right would be just as upset. >> what about the fact that politicians use kids when they want to politically all the time. remember can chelsea clip ton walking between her parents to the helicopter after the monta lewinsky affair. or this time when the white house released a picture of the president with his two daughters snuggling on the coach. they use their children for political purposes when they want to. >> walking to the helicopter, they are going on vacation. what are they supposed to do, take her to another helicopter? >> it was the ha
the nra are a bunch of punks for running the ad. if they stand behind it, why are they removing it from their website. they are getting what they wanted. they put a youtube add up. we're talking about it. it gets out there. it shows you how weak and cowardly they are when they chose to run away from it. there is no need to invoke the president's daughters in this conversation. i can guarantee you that had anybody invoked the daughters of president george w. bush in a similar ad, folks on the...
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zero heartburn. >>> the nra gets personal. the group is out with an, ploe sieve new ad that targets the president's gun control proposals and his family. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then, why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? >> was that out of line. i want to bring in our contributors. jay carney issued a statement saying most americans agree that the president's children should not be used as pawns in a political fight but to make the safety of the president's children the subject of an attack ad is repugnant and cowardly. i must say the word repugnant is not used often enough. i kind of love t i love saying repugnant. is going after the president's kids in this way an absolute line you don't cross? >> i think it is completely crazy and counterproductive but it makes sense according to a different strategy. something like 47% of u.s. households report they own a gun. the nra is very concerned about rival gun righ
zero heartburn. >>> the nra gets personal. the group is out with an, ploe sieve new ad that targets the president's gun control proposals and his family. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then, why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? >> was that out of line. i want to bring in our contributors. jay carney issued a statement saying most americans agree that the...
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>> is this the nra's moment of desperation. they don't know where else to go to they'll ignore any good type of argument and attack the first family? >> yes when wayne lapierre had a press conference a week after the massacre, really, this is what you think about a week after a massacre? this is what you sit around thinking about? let's attack the first family's kids for having secret service? the argument it makes no sense. it falls apart. of course the first family has secret service but this sort of ties in to the very creepy right-wing obsession that we've seen for four or five years with this complaint about how much protection the obama's get. their vacations are too expensive. tucker carlson's starting a petition saying that the secret service should stop protecting the obamas. it definitely taps into very weird issues and it's not always just about guns. >> now the squeaky wheel tend to get the most attention and thankfully cenk has been a squeaky wheel in this issue. >> the national rifle association has been getting f
>> is this the nra's moment of desperation. they don't know where else to go to they'll ignore any good type of argument and attack the first family? >> yes when wayne lapierre had a press conference a week after the massacre, really, this is what you think about a week after a massacre? this is what you sit around thinking about? let's attack the first family's kids for having secret service? the argument it makes no sense. it falls apart. of course the first family has secret...
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show moderation you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz are right out there front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop, the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize winning columnist. thank you both for joining us. you have been in this fight for so long, congresswoman mccarthy. i have to ask you, is there something out there in the water that's changed or are we confronting the old power of the nra? >> well, certainly we are confronting them. we'll always be able to confront them, but this time is different, and i think that the american people are realizing on how radical they actually are. you know, when you see the polls in most people in america support on what we're trying to do, even nra members, so that this time is differe
show moderation you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz are right out there front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop, the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize winning columnist....
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. >> i noticed that the nra and their people keep using obama as this selling tool. they keep putting him in magazines and acting like he wants to take away your guns so you have to buy as many guns as possible. he's only, to this point, been a friend to the nra and expanded where we can carry guns. but these have been the best-selling tool that they've ever had. >> if you look at if nra, they sent out a fund raising letter right after this started saying -- and i'm quoting from the letter, nra fund-raising letter today about president obama's supposed real goal on gun control. the letter says the main goal of the gun banners in congress is not to make school safer, but to ban your guns. and, david, they come with this, well, we need to have our guns in case the government comes in to take -- first of all, if the government came in to take our guns, do you think they're going to knock on the door and try to take it with an automatic weapon for automatic weapon? it would certainly be a lot more ammunition than an automatic weapon couldn't fight the government. so it's
. >> i noticed that the nra and their people keep using obama as this selling tool. they keep putting him in magazines and acting like he wants to take away your guns so you have to buy as many guns as possible. he's only, to this point, been a friend to the nra and expanded where we can carry guns. but these have been the best-selling tool that they've ever had. >> if you look at if nra, they sent out a fund raising letter right after this started saying -- and i'm quoting from the...
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host: why a former nra member? caller: the day after the presidential election, cote was contacted by the nra. if you know anything about an they contact you quite often, asking for money. while i still support the nra's position on defending some of our rights, i also saw them as one of the largest and more powerful lobbies. the tactic could not defeat president obama -- the fact that they could not defeat president obama, i thought, i am not going to support their financial effort anymore. host: you mention that your a gun owner, and you have been treated for depression. caller: i am treated for depression. i have not read the president's entire proposal verbatim. i want to caution the government to really take a look at this for people -- it as a man, it was very difficult for me to ever go to a health-care professional to address my depression. i knew for years that i was depressed, but i always thought that was something that i could man up, power through. that is just not the case. my doctor actually told me,
host: why a former nra member? caller: the day after the presidential election, cote was contacted by the nra. if you know anything about an they contact you quite often, asking for money. while i still support the nra's position on defending some of our rights, i also saw them as one of the largest and more powerful lobbies. the tactic could not defeat president obama -- the fact that they could not defeat president obama, i thought, i am not going to support their financial effort anymore....
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on fox 5. >>> tonight at 6:00 nra responds. what the group's president is vowing to do to fight the president's gun control policys. first lance armstrong loses another medal. as president obama makes history these men live it and have a special story to tell. t >>> nearly six months adventure a mass shooting that killed 12 people and injured 60 others tonight the aurora, colorado theater is reopening. accused gunman james holmes faces 166 murder charges for last summer's attack. he is scheduled to be arraigned in march. >>> plus, are searching for a woman who abducted a 5-year-old elementary girl from her elementary school. the girl was forced to change out of clothes and hide under a bed after being taken out of the classroom monday morning. a passer by found the girl shivering outside after missing. >>> students in new york city are still waiting for the school bus literally. on-going strike between bus drivers and the city administration continues for a second day as tens of thousands of students are forced to find anoth
on fox 5. >>> tonight at 6:00 nra responds. what the group's president is vowing to do to fight the president's gun control policys. first lance armstrong loses another medal. as president obama makes history these men live it and have a special story to tell. t >>> nearly six months adventure a mass shooting that killed 12 people and injured 60 others tonight the aurora, colorado theater is reopening. accused gunman james holmes faces 166 murder charges for last summer's...
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. >> the white house is also up against the nra, which is raising money. e-mailing support, to upgrade their membership to prepare for, quote, the fight of the century. barack obama, joe biden and their gun ban allies in it congress only want to blame you, vilify you, bully you and strip you of your second amendment freedoms. nra president david keen made these slippery slope argument that has become all too familiar from them. this morning on the "today" show. >> you get into the sort of bidding match. they say we shouldn't have a 30-round magazine or 20-round. the president says let's have a ten. the governor of new york says well, i can top that, we'll have a seven-round magazine. >> but did the nra go too far by invoking president obama's daughters, even before he spoke in a video attack? keene defended the decision this morning with savannah. >> it wasn't about the president's daughters. what it is about is the fact that -- >> the ad does mention the president's daughters. >> it's how to keep children safe. >> finally, as we gear up for the president'
. >> the white house is also up against the nra, which is raising money. e-mailing support, to upgrade their membership to prepare for, quote, the fight of the century. barack obama, joe biden and their gun ban allies in it congress only want to blame you, vilify you, bully you and strip you of your second amendment freedoms. nra president david keen made these slippery slope argument that has become all too familiar from them. this morning on the "today" show. >> you get...
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today it's the nra. and the budget debate, it's going to be other groups. >> aarp. >> this is an interesting test case about whether this congress and this administration are able to stand up to narrow interests. as big as the gun-control debate is, the stakes are bigger than just that. >> and it's a great test, as i've said, mika, for my republican party. >> yeah, it is, and for the democrats, actually, in terms of the gun debate. kelly, stay with us. >>> coming up, we'll talk to former senator jim demint, nbc's tom brokaw and reverend al sharpton and the creative director of american "vogue" magazine, grace codington will be joining us. that's really cool. >>> up next, the top stories in the "politico playbook." first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill. >> mika, it's a big deal when it snows in the deep south. and it's happening this morning. mississippi waking up to snow to the delight of millions of children through the southeast. there's more on the way. look out, virginia, and e
today it's the nra. and the budget debate, it's going to be other groups. >> aarp. >> this is an interesting test case about whether this congress and this administration are able to stand up to narrow interests. as big as the gun-control debate is, the stakes are bigger than just that. >> and it's a great test, as i've said, mika, for my republican party. >> yeah, it is, and for the democrats, actually, in terms of the gun debate. kelly, stay with us. >>>...
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the nra, a lot of fans among conservatives. the bigger question is could you be losing the battle among the general public? did public-relations battle? >> i think not. if you go back to wayne's press conference and what happened since we zeroed in on the causes of problems like what took place in connecticut and the causes are two things. one, we have a broken, devastatingly broken mental health care system in this country, almost every one of these people, these are not criminals, these are people who are literally crazy, people who should not have fallen through the cracks of our mental health care system. they should have been identified early on. it is interesting because in the aura shooting the only person, there were many signs the only person who acted on it was a gun dealer who refuse to sell the shooter gun because that guy is crazy. the fact is that is the root problem and the second problem, this is what parents were asking themselves after the connecticut shootings and what we were responding to, parents asking ho
the nra, a lot of fans among conservatives. the bigger question is could you be losing the battle among the general public? did public-relations battle? >> i think not. if you go back to wayne's press conference and what happened since we zeroed in on the causes of problems like what took place in connecticut and the causes are two things. one, we have a broken, devastatingly broken mental health care system in this country, almost every one of these people, these are not criminals, these...
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, and he is saying the nra is out of their mines. and i will divulge this i am a gun owner, but i am perfectly in support for making it more difficult to guy guns. it is the most unreasonable untenable, unfathomable position to say that anybody can buy any gun at anytime. >> stephanie: you need to practice for the season opener of archer which starts tonight. [♪ magic wand ♪] >> yes. in this show i just shoot little cartoon guns. poo, poo, poo, poo, poo. [ laughter ] >> but it debuts tonight. we were just on tour, and it was so great to see our fans in person. and have them scream out catch phrases from the show. and this season anthony boredane is going to be on the show and a lot of incredible guest stars. we're all going through personal tragedies as well, so there is going to be cartoon tears. poo-poo poo-poo poo. >> stephanie: i love the sound effects board. >> yeah, it's just the one. >> stephanie: and how are things on "the talk." >> the talk show is going great. >> stephanie: that's why none of us can get jobs because you
, and he is saying the nra is out of their mines. and i will divulge this i am a gun owner, but i am perfectly in support for making it more difficult to guy guns. it is the most unreasonable untenable, unfathomable position to say that anybody can buy any gun at anytime. >> stephanie: you need to practice for the season opener of archer which starts tonight. [♪ magic wand ♪] >> yes. in this show i just shoot little cartoon guns. poo, poo, poo, poo, poo. [ laughter ] >>...
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this is the side of the century and i need you on board with the nra now more than ever. this ad is getting mixed but massive reviews online. many of you have contacted on facebook to share your opinions. we have some chilly air coming in during the day tomorrow. j-lo of colder air that has occurred thermometer readings down to 8 below zero at international falls and 19 at minneapolis. this is a look at where this snow will fall down to the south of us heavy in the mountains and look at this snow on the upper midwest. for us there is a big canadian high we jumped ahead monday and monday night that big guy comes southport but look at this little system that the afternoon weather services picked up on that brings a little bit of snow into the area as you can see right here 27 tomorrow and 41 friday. only nine on monday some chilly weather. a scary moment in portland oregon firefighters rescued a woman who was stuck between the walls of two buildings for several hours on sure of exactly how she got their but witnesses said they saw her climbing a second store wall in the mid
this is the side of the century and i need you on board with the nra now more than ever. this ad is getting mixed but massive reviews online. many of you have contacted on facebook to share your opinions. we have some chilly air coming in during the day tomorrow. j-lo of colder air that has occurred thermometer readings down to 8 below zero at international falls and 19 at minneapolis. this is a look at where this snow will fall down to the south of us heavy in the mountains and look at this...
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does the nra represent gun owners or gun manufacturers? >> well the nra is getting its funding from gun manufacturers, and a lot of congressional people got money from gun manufacturers. in fact gun manufacturers are the only manufacturers in the country that i know of who have been granted from immunity in miss use of their products or products that they know will hurt people. the automobile industry doesn't have that kind of protection. cbs doesn't have that kind of protection. charlie, there are lots of problems in the world. i can just tell you this. in new york state which has tough gun laws and our legislature just passed it. they just passed more stringent gun laws. our murder rate is so low compared to other places it's hard to measure it. our suicide rate is less than half of the national average. it's like 20%. if you don't have guns in the hands of the wrong people, then you don't have this carnage and that doesn't take away the ability for the average person. >> when you bring up handgun violence like that that's exactly why gu
does the nra represent gun owners or gun manufacturers? >> well the nra is getting its funding from gun manufacturers, and a lot of congressional people got money from gun manufacturers. in fact gun manufacturers are the only manufacturers in the country that i know of who have been granted from immunity in miss use of their products or products that they know will hurt people. the automobile industry doesn't have that kind of protection. cbs doesn't have that kind of protection. charlie,...